Macron and Trump declare a truce on digital tax dispute

President Donald Trump and France’s President Emmanuel Macron shake hands as they meet, ahead of the NATO summit in Watford, in London, Britain, December 3, 2019French President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday he had a “great discussion” with President Donald Trump over a digital tax planned by Paris and said the two countries would work together to avoid a rise in tariffs. Macron and Trump agreed to hold off on a potential tariffs war until the end of the year, a French diplomatic source said,


President Donald Trump and France’s President Emmanuel Macron shake hands as they meet, ahead of the NATO summit in Watford, in London, Britain, December 3, 2019French President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday he had a “great discussion” with President Donald Trump over a digital tax planned by Paris and said the two countries would work together to avoid a rise in tariffs.
Macron and Trump agreed to hold off on a potential tariffs war until the end of the year, a French diplomatic source said,
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Macron and Trump declare a truce on digital tax dispute

President Donald Trump and France’s President Emmanuel Macron shake hands as they meet, ahead of the NATO summit in Watford, in London, Britain, December 3, 2019

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday he had a “great discussion” with President Donald Trump over a digital tax planned by Paris and said the two countries would work together to avoid a rise in tariffs.

Macron and Trump agreed to hold off on a potential tariffs war until the end of the year, a French diplomatic source said, and continue negotiations at the OECD on the digital tax during that period.

“They agreed to give a chance to negotiations until the end of the year,” the source said. “During that time period, there won’t be successive tariffs.”

France decided in July to apply a 3% levy on revenue from digital services earned in France by firms with revenues of more than $28 million in France and nearly $832 million worldwide. Washington has threatened to impose taxes on French products in response.

French authorities have repeatedly said that any international agreement on digital taxation reached within the OECD would immediately supercede the French tax.


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Macron under pressure as France suffers the longest strike in more than 30 years

French President Emmanuel Macron speaks at the Elysee Palace on May 06, 2019 in Paris, France. French President Emmanuel Macron is under growing pressure from trade unions as he seeks to reform the country’s pension system. The latest dispute doesn’t seem to have an end in sight, with trade unions criticizing Macron for “living in his own bubble.” During his new years’ address, President Macron asked for a “rapid compromise” between his government and workers. President Emmanuel Macron vowed ahe


French President Emmanuel Macron speaks at the Elysee Palace on May 06, 2019 in Paris, France.
French President Emmanuel Macron is under growing pressure from trade unions as he seeks to reform the country’s pension system.
The latest dispute doesn’t seem to have an end in sight, with trade unions criticizing Macron for “living in his own bubble.”
During his new years’ address, President Macron asked for a “rapid compromise” between his government and workers.
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Macron under pressure as France suffers the longest strike in more than 30 years

French President Emmanuel Macron speaks at the Elysee Palace on May 06, 2019 in Paris, France.

French President Emmanuel Macron is under growing pressure from trade unions as he seeks to reform the country’s pension system.

Public sector workers entered their 30th day of industrial action on Friday – the longest protest in France since 1986, when transport workers demonstrated for 28 days. The latest dispute doesn’t seem to have an end in sight, with trade unions criticizing Macron for “living in his own bubble.”

“The process will be protracted, strikes could last for another month,” Tomasz Michalski, professor of economics at HEC Paris business school, told CNBC Thursday.

There will be a new round of talks between government officials and trade unionists Tuesday. Workers are set to take to the streets again later next week.

During his new years’ address, President Macron asked for a “rapid compromise” between his government and workers.

“What has he said that was new about this famous social … reform? Nothing. I have heard this speech 1000 times before. We have the impression that the President of the Republic has closed himself within his own bubble,” Philippe Martinez, secretary general of the General Confederation of Labour, a trade union, told BFM TV Wednesday.

The Federation Syndicale Unitaire, another French trade union, also said in a statement Wednesday that the President is in “denial of the social reality.”

“It is therefore more than ever necessary to continue the mobilizations,” they argued.

The open-ended strike is an attempt by public sector workers to show their dissatisfaction with the government’s plan to update the pension system. France has one of the most expensive pension systems in the world, according to data from the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development). President Emmanuel Macron vowed ahead of his election in 2017 to make the current setup simpler.

Macron is pushing for a single, points-based system. This would replace the current 42 different pension plans that vary according to profession and region, which means some workers are currently entitled to a full pension before the minimum retirement age of 62. The proposed regime aims to make pensioners contribute the same amount and give them equal rights.


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Trudeau, Macron, Johnson appear to joke about Trump on hot mic video

The leaders of France, Canada and the U.K. appeared to be gossiping about President Donald Trump at Buckingham Palace on Tuesday, according to video footage circulated of the event. In the video, in which the world leaders don’t appear to realize their conversation is being recorded, U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson asks French President Macron: “Is that why you were late?” Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau then steps in and says: “He was late because he takes a 40-minute press conference


The leaders of France, Canada and the U.K. appeared to be gossiping about President Donald Trump at Buckingham Palace on Tuesday, according to video footage circulated of the event.
In the video, in which the world leaders don’t appear to realize their conversation is being recorded, U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson asks French President Macron: “Is that why you were late?”
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau then steps in and says: “He was late because he takes a 40-minute press conference
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Trudeau, Macron, Johnson appear to joke about Trump on hot mic video

LONDON, ENGLAND – DECEMBER 03: Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Jens Stoltenberg, Nato Secretary General, Queen Elizabeth II, Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada join other Nato leaders for a group photograph at a reception for NATO leaders hosted by Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace on December 3, 2019 in London, England.

The leaders of France, Canada and the U.K. appeared to be gossiping about President Donald Trump at Buckingham Palace on Tuesday, according to video footage circulated of the event.

In the video, in which the world leaders don’t appear to realize their conversation is being recorded, U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson asks French President Macron: “Is that why you were late?” Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau then steps in and says: “He was late because he takes a 40-minute press conference off the top.”

It is not clear who Trudeau was referring to and none of people present — which also includes Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Princess Anne — mention Trump by name.

However, Trump’s remarks alongside NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg earlier on Tuesday lasted 53 minutes, according to a White House transcript, when the itinerary had suggested that it would last 20 minutes. The U.S. president was later involved in 38 minutes of remarks alongside Macron.

The footage also features a “jaws drop to the floor” sentence from the Canadian prime minster, potentially referring a team of officials that work in close contact with a world leader. But the words do not appear to be a continuation of Trudeau’s previous comments.

Spokespersons for Johnson and Macron’s offices have both declined to comment on the video.

Leaders of NATO countries are in the U.K. to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the alliance and met the British queen and her family at an evening event on Tuesday. But the celebrations come against a backdrop of division between members on its future direction.

During a press conference Tuesday, Macron and Trump expressed differing views over topics like Turkey, Islamic State fighters and the overall role of the transatlantic institution. During the morning session, Trump strongly denounced comments the French president made earlier this year about NATO.

Macron told The Economist publication in October that the military alliance was experiencing “brain death.” The American leader hit back, saying he could see France “breaking off” from NATO and said Macron’s comments had been “very, very nasty” to the 28 other member states.


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Trump to meet the queen and NATO allies after tariff threat to France

LONDON — President Donald Trump touched down in the U.K. on Monday night ahead of a highly-anticipated NATO meeting, marking 70 years since the alliance’s creation. The gathering comes amid overt tensions between some leaders regarding spending pledges, how to tackle the challenges posed by Russia and China, and the relevance of NATO itself. The two-day meeting is taking place just outside of London, in Watford, with high-profile delegates then heading to Buckingham Palace in the evening where Q


LONDON — President Donald Trump touched down in the U.K. on Monday night ahead of a highly-anticipated NATO meeting, marking 70 years since the alliance’s creation.
The gathering comes amid overt tensions between some leaders regarding spending pledges, how to tackle the challenges posed by Russia and China, and the relevance of NATO itself.
The two-day meeting is taking place just outside of London, in Watford, with high-profile delegates then heading to Buckingham Palace in the evening where Q
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Trump to meet the queen and NATO allies after tariff threat to France

LONDON — President Donald Trump touched down in the U.K. on Monday night ahead of a highly-anticipated NATO meeting, marking 70 years since the alliance’s creation. The gathering comes amid overt tensions between some leaders regarding spending pledges, how to tackle the challenges posed by Russia and China, and the relevance of NATO itself. The two-day meeting is taking place just outside of London, in Watford, with high-profile delegates then heading to Buckingham Palace in the evening where Queen Elizabeth II will host NATO heads of state and government for dinner. Trump is scheduled to have talks with French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg; he is due to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Wednesday. It’s unclear if the U.S. president will meet with Prime Minister Boris Johnson with the U.K. leader apparently keen for Trump not to involve himself in Britain’s domestic politics ahead of an upcoming election on December 12.

Trump’s meeting with his French counterpart Macron — due to take place at the U.S. ambassador to the U.K.’s residence where Trump and first lady Melania Trump stayed Monday night — could be an awkward affair given the U.S. administration’s threats to impose import tariffs of up to 100% on $2.4 billion worth of French imports. The U.S. trade representative has identified several goods, including Champagne, handbags and Gruyere cheese that could be targeted.The U.S. said Monday that the move is a response to a French digital services tax that it believes “unfairly targeted” American tech companies.


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Trump slams Macron for ‘insulting’ and ‘disrespectful’ NATO comments

President Donald Trump has denounced recent comments made by French President Emmanuel Macron on the military alliance NATO. He added that it was “very insulting” for the French president to label NATO as brain dead. “You can’t go around saying that about NATO,” Trump added. The U.S. president said relations between the U.S. and European NATO members were not causing any divide, with the exception of France. I’m looking at him and I’m saying he (Macron) needs protection more than anybody and I s


President Donald Trump has denounced recent comments made by French President Emmanuel Macron on the military alliance NATO.
He added that it was “very insulting” for the French president to label NATO as brain dead.
“You can’t go around saying that about NATO,” Trump added.
The U.S. president said relations between the U.S. and European NATO members were not causing any divide, with the exception of France.
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Trump slams Macron for 'insulting' and 'disrespectful' NATO comments

President Donald Trump has denounced recent comments made by French President Emmanuel Macron on the military alliance NATO.

In November, Macron told The Economist magazine that the world was experiencing the “brain death” of NATO, warning that members of the alliance could no longer rely on the U.S.

In comments to the press ahead of a NATO meeting in London on Tuesday, Trump said Macron’s words had been “very, very nasty” to the other 28 member states. He added that it was “very insulting” for the French president to label NATO as brain dead. “You can’t go around saying that about NATO,” Trump added.

The U.S. president said relations between the U.S. and European NATO members were not causing any divide, with the exception of France.

“I do see France breaking off. I’m looking at him and I’m saying he (Macron) needs protection more than anybody and I see him breaking off, so I’m a little surprised at that,” said the American leader.

Trump has himself criticized the international body, previously describing NATO as “obsolete.” And in comments just before arriving in the U.K., Trump also called out some of the alliance members as “delinquent,” in an apparent reference to the amount of money that some nations spend on defense.


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Macron: ‘When we speak about NATO, it’s not just about money’

Macron: ‘When we speak about NATO, it’s not just about money’President Trump and France’s President Macron hold a press conference at the NATO summit in London.


Macron: ‘When we speak about NATO, it’s not just about money’President Trump and France’s President Macron hold a press conference at the NATO summit in London.
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Macron: 'When we speak about NATO, it's not just about money'

Macron: ‘When we speak about NATO, it’s not just about money’

President Trump and France’s President Macron hold a press conference at the NATO summit in London.


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Trump: NATO is becoming stronger because people are now fulfilling commitments

Trump: NATO is becoming stronger because people are now fulfilling commitmentsPresident Trump and France’s President Macron hold a press conference at the NATO summit in London.


Trump: NATO is becoming stronger because people are now fulfilling commitmentsPresident Trump and France’s President Macron hold a press conference at the NATO summit in London.
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Trump: NATO is becoming stronger because people are now fulfilling commitments

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‘Sometimes allies don’t agree on all issues,’ NATO’s secretary general says

LONDON — With a very public spat taking place between NATO members France and Turkey just ahead of the latest meeting of the military alliance in London, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told CNBC that it’s normal for allies to disagree. “Sometimes NATO allies don’t agree on all issues,” he said, speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble the day before the NATO summit begins at a location just outside London. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan responded by saying Macron should check whether he hims


LONDON — With a very public spat taking place between NATO members France and Turkey just ahead of the latest meeting of the military alliance in London, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told CNBC that it’s normal for allies to disagree.
“Sometimes NATO allies don’t agree on all issues,” he said, speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble the day before the NATO summit begins at a location just outside London.
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'Sometimes allies don't agree on all issues,' NATO's secretary general says

LONDON — With a very public spat taking place between NATO members France and Turkey just ahead of the latest meeting of the military alliance in London, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told CNBC that it’s normal for allies to disagree.

“Sometimes NATO allies don’t agree on all issues,” he said, speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble the day before the NATO summit begins at a location just outside London.

“At the same time the strength of NATO is that despite the differences we have seen throughout our history, we’ve always been able to agree around our core task to protect and defend each other.”

French President Emmanuel Macron drew a sharp rebuke from NATO-ally Turkey after he said three weeks ago that the 70-year old military alliance of 29 countries was experiencing “brain death.”

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan responded by saying Macron should check whether he himself was “brain dead.”

“I’m addressing Mr Macron from Turkey and I will say it at NATO: You should check whether you are brain dead first,” Erdogan said on Friday, Reuters reported.

Stoltenberg said the different perspectives on NATO’s existence “reflect the fact that we are 29 allies with different political leaders from both sides of the Atlantic with different history and geography.”

“The reality is that we do more together now than we’ve done in many years,” he added.


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France does not need a power struggle with Germany

His mediation efforts could now be needed more than ever, as the French President Emmanuel Macron seems to have lost patience in dealing with his German colleagues. Macron fought hard to show that it was not true that Germany was using its strong economic position to reinforce its EU’s political dominance. He also proposed measures to anchor France and Germany into a quasi-irreversible European institutional structure. Predictably, France’s high unemployment, rising poverty, social unrest and ne


His mediation efforts could now be needed more than ever, as the French President Emmanuel Macron seems to have lost patience in dealing with his German colleagues.
Macron fought hard to show that it was not true that Germany was using its strong economic position to reinforce its EU’s political dominance.
He also proposed measures to anchor France and Germany into a quasi-irreversible European institutional structure.
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France does not need a power struggle with Germany

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron during a press conference in the German chancellery on Volkstrauertag, Germany’s national day of mourning for victims of war, on November 18, 2018 in Berlin, Germany. Michele Tantussi | Getty Images News | Getty Images

Europe’s “demons haven’t been banished, they are merely sleeping,” recently retired president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker warned six years ago. He’s also said that “anyone who believes [that] the eternal issue of war and peace in Europe has been permanently laid to rest could be making a monumental error.” This is the man who once proudly declared that “Europe is the love story of my life.” A long-serving prime minister of Luxembourg, Juncker was also known as an indefatigable mediator of French-German disputes. One such famous event was a nearly pugilistic encounter between the French President Jacques Chirac and the German Chancellor Helmut Kohl as they clashed about the European Central Bank presidency during a meeting in Dublin, Ireland in December 1996. Juncker was dubbed the “Hero of Dublin” by the international media for how well he handled the mediation between the other two leaders. His mediation efforts could now be needed more than ever, as the French President Emmanuel Macron seems to have lost patience in dealing with his German colleagues. That’s a sad coda to an effort for a united Europe. Macron fought hard to show that it was not true that Germany was using its strong economic position to reinforce its EU’s political dominance. But last week, he sounded like he admitted to having failed in that important mission.

Macron’s costly German mistake

Even before he became president, Macron traveled to Germany to assure his future partners he would consolidate the French public finances and reform product and labor markets to narrow the structural gap between the French and German economies. To impress the Germans, he pursued fiscal austerity and harsh labor market reforms. He also proposed measures to anchor France and Germany into a quasi-irreversible European institutional structure. Macron apparently wanted to guarantee that “populists” and euroskeptics would not be able to dismantle his work. Predictably, France’s high unemployment, rising poverty, social unrest and nearly a year of violent demonstrations have damped Macron’s reformist zeal. He has also reversed the fiscal discipline he imposed to satisfy the German drive to balanced public sector accounts within the euro area. At the same time, Macron’s proposals about strengthening the European Union never had a chance; they were peremptorily rejected by Berlin. Facing the second half of his five-year term, Macron is caught up in a dead heat with the right-wing National Rally leader Marine Le Pen — a fervent euroskeptic and a virulent critic of what she sees as the French subservience to Germany. The latest opinion poll shows that, if the vote was held now, the two bitter rivals would get roughly the same share of votes in the first round — but Macron would eventually win the runoff, a risk he apparently does not wish to take. The risk is significant indeed. At the moment, the French economy has stabilized around a quarterly growth rate of 0.3%, and the outlook for a 1.3% annual growth this year and next remains an optimistic scenario in view of a tightening fiscal policy.

Germany’s deep crisis

Under those conditions, it is implausible to expect a notable decline of unemployment. France’s likely jobless rate of 8.5% will remain the fourth largest (after Greece, Spain and Italy) in the euro area. That bodes ill for general living standards. The poverty report issued in September shows that 14.7% of the French population — 9.3 million people — lived below the poverty line. That’s a considerable increase from a 14.1% poverty rate observed over the last three years. That raises several issues in French-German relations. First, Berlin insists, directly or through its sidekicks at the EU Commission, on calling out Paris for excessive budget deficits estimated at 3.2% of GDP this year and 2.3% in 2020. Macron spoke derisively last week about that procedure — which can lead to economic sanctions — as a debate of another century, where budget rules have nothing to do with sound economic analysis. Second, Germany’s refusal to stimulate its domestic demand means that it will continue to live off its trade partners, as shown by its exports soaring at an annual rate of 4.6% in September. France is by far Germany’s largest euro area customer; its 40.1 billion euro deficit on German trades in 2018 accounted for nearly one-half of Berlin’s trade surplus with the monetary union. Is there any leverage for Macron here? Third, German fiscal policy pressures on France, and Berlin’s large economic benefits from the euro and the euro area trade surpluses are powerful arguments for Marine Le Pen and the rest of Macron’s adversaries. They are raising the question of France’s submission to Germany — a resonant and dangerous issue — where the euro and the EU serve as instruments of German domination. Macron directly spoke or alluded to some of those problems last week. The German media called that an “unsparing” attack on German leadership, and a serious turn of events at a time when Germany was commemorating the fall of the Berlin Wall. Germans apparently saw nothing coming, although it has been quite clear for some time that Macron was under increasing political pressure from social unrest, sluggish economy and precarious public finances. That shows the Germans don’t care that their economic policies are a large part of Macron’s problems.

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The EU stands ‘on the edge of a precipice,’ French President Macron warns

European leaders need to “wake up” and act amid a “considerable” risk that the European Union will disappear in the future, French President Emmanuel Macron has warned in an interview with The Economist. The bloc emerged in the wake of World War II with the aim of avoiding conflict and bringing economic prosperity to the region. “I don’t think I’m being either pessimistic or painting an overly gloomy picture when I say this. According to the French president, the EU has been too focused on growi


European leaders need to “wake up” and act amid a “considerable” risk that the European Union will disappear in the future, French President Emmanuel Macron has warned in an interview with The Economist.
The bloc emerged in the wake of World War II with the aim of avoiding conflict and bringing economic prosperity to the region.
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The EU stands 'on the edge of a precipice,' French President Macron warns

European leaders need to “wake up” and act amid a “considerable” risk that the European Union will disappear in the future, French President Emmanuel Macron has warned in an interview with The Economist.

The bloc emerged in the wake of World War II with the aim of avoiding conflict and bringing economic prosperity to the region. Over time, it grew in size and influence. However, the EU has recently faced deep challenges that have shaken its foundations: from the migration crises to economic and financial turmoil and the rising support for extremist parties.

“I don’t think I’m being either pessimistic or painting an overly gloomy picture when I say this. I’m just saying that if we don’t wake up, face up to this situation and decide to do something about it, there’s a considerable risk that in the long run we will disappear geopolitically, or at least that we will no longer be in control of our destiny,” Macron told The Economist last month, according to a transcript posted last week.

According to the French president, the EU has been too focused on growing as a market. He also said that the U.S. has changed its strategy by looking more at the Pacific region rather than the Atlantic and that the emergence of China “clearly marginalizes Europe.” Macron also mentioned that authoritarian regimes in Turkey and Russia – neighboring nations to the EU – pose a challenge.


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